I'm not a huge fan of any of these, but before I even read the article, my prediction was Star Trek also. Get rid of Kurtzman, bring in people who respect the canon, and I can see a solid recovery.
Star Wars is probably the most damaged in the ways that matter. Star Trek and Dr. Who had a long history of soft resets with new series, Star Wars never did in the visual mediums (only the books, which were the hard core fans). The thing is for Star Wars, the majority of the hard core fans don't trust Disney enough to show up at this point. As an example, I should be a core audience for them, and when the movie came out, my reaction was "Eh." I just didn't care. Star Trek is moving away from the Kurtzmen error and there are hints they want to bring it back. Star Wars hasn't shown that Disney and Lucas Film even knows what bringing it back would be.
I would say that Star Wars is certainly the worst off of the three. I am not too much into Trek and never got deep into Doctor Who, but from what I can glean from the conversation the fan bases still care. Star Wars fans, disregarding Disney shills, just don't anymore. Everything that comes out or is announced is just expected to be bad so deeply that no enthusiasm or hope builds anymore. Nor real anger, just the objwctive knowledge of what they're going to ruin next. Disney just never had anyone around who knew how to write Star Wars. Moreover they actively disliked every facet of established canon, worked against it and tried to replace anything with poorly made clones. And by now no one will ever expect anything else from them or give them even a hint of good will. The magic has just been extinguished.
Don't know Doctor Who, I was never all that impressed. I seem to recall that the original premise defined a limited number of regenerations possible, which they are now a couple of notches past.
Trek was uneven in Next Generation, I very much liked DS9, and though the rest was wobbly, it didn't go far off the rails from the original concept until very recently. It's also worth noting that the original concept, being basically an adventure anthology, set up the most flexible cast and setting structure for subsequent shows.
Star Wars was my jam for a long time after first seeing it on release in '77. Original trilogy pretty good, EU was uneven but big enough to have a nice selection of material, prequels were disappointing in some ways but fine in others...and then Disney took over, and forced everything to change. They weren't making more Star Wars, they were wearing Star Wars as a skinsuit, changing and discarding characters and core lore in true revolutionary-narcissist style...and openly denigrating the established fans along the way. I'm not sure SW will ever recover. They need to just stop making SW for a while.
The rot in England is too pervasive and the BBC would never allow Doctor Who to be anything but woke, "diverse" trash
Disney may have finally realized something went wrong, but that company is so infested with sick weirdos that actively hate normal people (especially straight, white, males and Christians for bonus hate) it's incapable of proper course correction. These people are at Disney because, like pdf files, they want to be where the children are.
Paramount jettisoned Kurtzman and (I think?) airlocked Bad Reboot and is going to be under new ownership that at least claims to understand the problem and desires to fix it. Positive signs, but then again the Ellison daughter is responsible for Mixtape, so keep her FAR away, playing pretend indy game maker please
I'm not a huge fan of any of these, but before I even read the article, my prediction was Star Trek also. Get rid of Kurtzman, bring in people who respect the canon, and I can see a solid recovery.
Doctor Who. It's been on hiatus before.
Doctor Who always has the option to reset. That's what regenerations are. A new doctor, new look for the Tardis, new adventures, new companions.
Star Wars is probably the most damaged in the ways that matter. Star Trek and Dr. Who had a long history of soft resets with new series, Star Wars never did in the visual mediums (only the books, which were the hard core fans). The thing is for Star Wars, the majority of the hard core fans don't trust Disney enough to show up at this point. As an example, I should be a core audience for them, and when the movie came out, my reaction was "Eh." I just didn't care. Star Trek is moving away from the Kurtzmen error and there are hints they want to bring it back. Star Wars hasn't shown that Disney and Lucas Film even knows what bringing it back would be.
I would say that Star Wars is certainly the worst off of the three. I am not too much into Trek and never got deep into Doctor Who, but from what I can glean from the conversation the fan bases still care. Star Wars fans, disregarding Disney shills, just don't anymore. Everything that comes out or is announced is just expected to be bad so deeply that no enthusiasm or hope builds anymore. Nor real anger, just the objwctive knowledge of what they're going to ruin next. Disney just never had anyone around who knew how to write Star Wars. Moreover they actively disliked every facet of established canon, worked against it and tried to replace anything with poorly made clones. And by now no one will ever expect anything else from them or give them even a hint of good will. The magic has just been extinguished.
Don't know Doctor Who, I was never all that impressed. I seem to recall that the original premise defined a limited number of regenerations possible, which they are now a couple of notches past.
Trek was uneven in Next Generation, I very much liked DS9, and though the rest was wobbly, it didn't go far off the rails from the original concept until very recently. It's also worth noting that the original concept, being basically an adventure anthology, set up the most flexible cast and setting structure for subsequent shows.
Star Wars was my jam for a long time after first seeing it on release in '77. Original trilogy pretty good, EU was uneven but big enough to have a nice selection of material, prequels were disappointing in some ways but fine in others...and then Disney took over, and forced everything to change. They weren't making more Star Wars, they were wearing Star Wars as a skinsuit, changing and discarding characters and core lore in true revolutionary-narcissist style...and openly denigrating the established fans along the way. I'm not sure SW will ever recover. They need to just stop making SW for a while.
Both Doctor Who and Star Trek have a chance since they can reboot, however, Star Wars died for a lot of people.
Star Trek by a mile.
The rot in England is too pervasive and the BBC would never allow Doctor Who to be anything but woke, "diverse" trash
Disney may have finally realized something went wrong, but that company is so infested with sick weirdos that actively hate normal people (especially straight, white, males and Christians for bonus hate) it's incapable of proper course correction. These people are at Disney because, like pdf files, they want to be where the children are.
Paramount jettisoned Kurtzman and (I think?) airlocked Bad Reboot and is going to be under new ownership that at least claims to understand the problem and desires to fix it. Positive signs, but then again the Ellison daughter is responsible for Mixtape, so keep her FAR away, playing pretend indy game maker please
Trek just got rid of Kurtzman. Depends now on who they replace him with.
Let’s just start fresh!
Paramount's purchase by Ellison. That makes Star Trek viable. Very viable.
First Trek I'll watch in years.
If Ellison bought Star Wars, it could be recovered after the Rey finish with a new story.