13 Comments
User's avatar
Cyborgjustice's avatar

You know what they say: Get Woke, Go Broke.

Dave W.'s avatar

I look forward to hearing about Paizo's impending implosion. They get what they asked for..... good and hard.

twb's avatar

My grief over their predicament is mostly limited by the contempt Paizo has for people like me. Just as well they were never oppressed by any of my evil dollars going into their coffers.

Mungho's avatar

"The second edition Remaster in 2023 stripped out the alignment system that had been a cornerstone of classic fantasy RPG design since Gary Gygax. The reasons given were mechanical. The subtext was not hard to read."

They got rid of alignment? I figured they'd give a mechanical reason for such a decision, but what is the subtext?

William Rivera's avatar

You know it's not surprising that the person whose handle is Obama gaming is a leftist. It's not surprising that he can't tell that the rejection of their core audience in favor of wokeism had already diminished them as a company and they were on their way to going out of business and the bankruptcy of diamond accelerated that.

Laran Mithras's avatar

Ha ha on Paizo.

Zero sympathy for their money troubles.

In fact, I'm "celebrating."

Anonymous Dude's avatar

I don't like woke and I'm happy to see them go broke but it's not clear to me from this the two are connected. They used Diamond Distributors, which got hurt by COVID and then lost DC, Marvel, and IDW in rapid succession.

Ingot9455's avatar

I'm in some long-running games but we are likely to switch to different systems when done.

It's crazy - when Hasbro/WotC screwed everyone with forcing them onto D&D Beyond there was a mass exodus to Pathfinder 2. People were going into their Friendly Local Gaming Store and buying $300+ of books at a time to get into it and have a fun time.

The Diamond thing is not their fault, but how did they squander that massive goodwill?

Jeffolas's avatar

Diamond's collapse and Paizo's turn to woke aren't really related.

Diamond wasn't an 800 pound gorilla squatting on US distribution channels it WAS the distribution channel. Everybody used them because there wasn't really an alternative.

Diamond screwed themselves by abusing that position for decades and then shutting everything down because "muh COVID". Alternatives were forced on the industry at that point.

Where Paizo erred was not jumping ship like WotC, Marvel, and DC did.

One could argue that a healthier, less woke Paizo would have had the resources to either jump ship early too or better weather the storm. That is too much of an extrapolation for me and I think it's searching for reasons to dunk on wokeness. (There are plenty enough I say, focus on those.)

Too many good people and good companies have been seriously impacted by the Diamond collapse and the, in my opinion, illegal theft of their consignment products. The entire Internet went crazy over 200k in stolen Lego consignments (Bricks and Minifigs controversy), but there was nowhere near that outrage when JPMorgan, the bank holding Diamond's debt, illegally stole tens of millions in consignment products.

Funny the difference there.

User's avatar
Comment removed
Jun 10
Comment removed
Jeffolas's avatar

Look, you see what my comment was doing?

My comment was disagreeing with the site's content creators in a respectful and informed manner.

I don't always agree 100% with what Jon and his writers post, but, for the must part, I generally enjoy their articles and find their points interesting to consider. I'll add my perspective and thoughts when they bring something to the table, or I'll throw in some counterpoints where needed.

Why exactly are you here other than to insult the site, it's operator, and it's users? If you don't like the content, go away.

May I suggest board game geek as an alternative? It is one of the most suffocatingly moderated sites on the entire Internet. You can talk about almost anything there, not just board games. And you'll never have to engage with a conflicting thought. The moderators saw to that a long time ago.

User's avatar
Comment removed
Jun 9
Comment removed
User's avatar
Comment removed
Jun 9
Comment removed
Dave's avatar

The structural read is that when you don't have logistics, you promote wokeness to shame people into buying your product. Any calorie of energy spent on they/them wheelchairs could have been spent, oh I dunno, making a really good mobile app or a non gay version of Critical Role.

User's avatar
Comment removed
Jun 9
Comment removed
Dave's avatar

"If you don’t have logistics you can’t sell"

Yes, that's rather the punchline of the last few decades. There's an amusing comic about it:

https://stonetoss.com/comic/burger-kang/

User's avatar
Comment removed
Jun 9
Comment removed
Laran Mithras's avatar

All of your comments have been irrelevant and pointless.