Christopher Nolan built his entire Odyssey around Emily Wilson’s 2017 translation, crediting her famous opening line, “Tell me about a complicated man,” as one of his biggest points of inspiration going into the project.
The hold on this turd of a movie is insane. It's up over 600 million after its second weekend.
Shameful.
It feels like an Avatar movie or Jurassic World where you wonder who in the heck is actually buying these tickets?
I want to accuse it of fraud, money laundering, fake ticket sales, astro-turfing, the works. But sadly, I think the movie going public really is this stupid and will line up squealing at the trough as more slop is poured in.
A lot of moviegoers are simply cattle. They'll watch anything that has any semblance of a traction. The whole IMAX appeal likely plays a part in that too.
The sad thing is that there will be some people that are going to think that what they saw in theaters is what Homer wrote. I wouldn't be surprised if some are already refusing to read Homer's poem simply because they saw Nolan's disgrace of an adaptation and think to themselves that is good enough. On the other hand, the negative press this film has garnered could have led to some seeking out the poem and reading it.
That being said, it is disheartening but not surprising that this film has already made that much money.
I've been saying this about most adaptations; they become the head canon of society and the (usually) far superior source fades out in favor of the most recent shiny. We can see this happening with this wench's version of The Odyssey.
First it catches the attention of the handful of few feminist academics who read it.
Then they declare it the most bestest version ever because "modern" and stuff.
Someone tells Nolan to use this translation if he wants to get an Oscar. Also, screw with the major cast. A lot. You've got some work to do if you want to meet those Academy requirements! Black people, brown people, a couple whites if it saves you from having to cast an actual Greek actor in any major role. Most importantly, at least one mentally deficient women pretending to be a man.
Shazam! Nolan's film becomes the reference and the few who want to read the book (or are forced to) have to read the one from this... well, the word would get me in trouble if I typed it here.
Of course, very, very rarely the movie is better. I don't know of many off the top of my head, but I remember thinking that once.
I would like to say I am disappointed in people seeing this bastardization, but since I am disappointed with most people in general it would be redundant.
The crazy and ongoing financial success of the blueskin Avatar films years ago convinced me that the downfall of Hollywood is not entirely Hollywood's fault, nor the woke subculture's. P T Barnum was not wrong.
Think about the hordes of dummies, and I mean, dummies we’ve imported over the half decade. This is the slop these 85 IQers go to see in droves. Plus the stupid middle class facebook, make no waves conservatives turn out for…. Gotta keep up with the Jones’s and Ramirez’s.
I would at least credit Avatar and Jurassic World (to some extent) of not rewriting a classic text or story of old. I believe though, that both Avatar and Odyssey share the reason of their box office successes to gimmick/special screens ticket pricing; Jurassic World on the other hand would be attributed to people's love for dinosaurs and franchise trust.
I’d be ashamed to have written it” was perfectly constructed to exploit authority transfer, consciously or otherwise. It isn’t an argument that readers can inspect. It’s a verdict whose entire force depends upon the identity of the person delivering it. Remove her name and it’s an obnoxious sentence. Attach “Emily Wilson, acclaimed translator of The Odyssey,” and thousands of people can borrow the prestige without doing any thinking themselves.
It’s a miserable little exchange: the translation survives intact, but the pleasure of thinking well of its translator doesn’t. Whenever her name comes up, there it is: credible Homer translation; also, huge asshole. She did that to herself.
She didn’t say, Here is where Nolan’s interpretation departs from mine, and here is what I think the film loses by doing so. She converted her scholarly prestige into a contemptuous one-liner: I’d be ashamed to have written it. Her status became the argument. she walked into the middle of the film and farted on it. She didn’t illuminate the film, seriously challenge it, or even help us understand her objections. She merely deposited her disdain in the middle of an enormous artistic undertaking and made everyone discuss the smell. Now that’s behavior one might be ashamed of.
“Emily Wilson” used to mean: the scholar who undertook the immense labor of producing a serious, credible translation of Homer. Now it also means: the woman who used that prestige to wander into somebody else’s art form and publicly humiliate an artist for making choices she disliked.
She didn’t merely say something foolish. She revealed an astonishing capacity for contempt
I’m a sports fan and have very few teams/ schools I hate. Every once-and-again I’ll see a game where I wish both teams could lose, because I absolutely loathe each participant. Like Texas v. Miami. This story is framed exactly in that last sentence.
This story is so eerily similar to that chick that wrote that very Entertaining, although extremely formulaic Harry Potter, and her “fans”.
Much like that woman and her fans, I wish this woman, coupled with nolan and minions would both “lose”.
I think she's trying to distance herself from the movie because it put her in a completely negative light. Liberals hate the spotlight of shame, yet fail to realize that it's always shining on them, even when it's pitch black all around. Emily Wilson is feces, plain and simple.
It's a very entertaining movie. You just have to see it for what it is. It is Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey, not Homer's Odyssey. He reworks Homer's tale into something else as thoroughly as Virgil did. Indeed the pervasive melancholy is Virgilian, not Homer's. The monsters and sea-going disasters are classic, worthy updates of older generation adventure flicks. The emotional parts are surprisingly effective, with surprisingly good performances by Damon, Hathaway, and Leguizamo. The dialogue, as Wilson says, is mediocre, so there was a missed opportunity to include literary competence in that aspect of the production, but it did not spoil the whole experience.
The hold on this turd of a movie is insane. It's up over 600 million after its second weekend.
Shameful.
It feels like an Avatar movie or Jurassic World where you wonder who in the heck is actually buying these tickets?
I want to accuse it of fraud, money laundering, fake ticket sales, astro-turfing, the works. But sadly, I think the movie going public really is this stupid and will line up squealing at the trough as more slop is poured in.
A lot of moviegoers are simply cattle. They'll watch anything that has any semblance of a traction. The whole IMAX appeal likely plays a part in that too.
The sad thing is that there will be some people that are going to think that what they saw in theaters is what Homer wrote. I wouldn't be surprised if some are already refusing to read Homer's poem simply because they saw Nolan's disgrace of an adaptation and think to themselves that is good enough. On the other hand, the negative press this film has garnered could have led to some seeking out the poem and reading it.
That being said, it is disheartening but not surprising that this film has already made that much money.
I've been saying this about most adaptations; they become the head canon of society and the (usually) far superior source fades out in favor of the most recent shiny. We can see this happening with this wench's version of The Odyssey.
First it catches the attention of the handful of few feminist academics who read it.
Then they declare it the most bestest version ever because "modern" and stuff.
Someone tells Nolan to use this translation if he wants to get an Oscar. Also, screw with the major cast. A lot. You've got some work to do if you want to meet those Academy requirements! Black people, brown people, a couple whites if it saves you from having to cast an actual Greek actor in any major role. Most importantly, at least one mentally deficient women pretending to be a man.
Shazam! Nolan's film becomes the reference and the few who want to read the book (or are forced to) have to read the one from this... well, the word would get me in trouble if I typed it here.
Of course, very, very rarely the movie is better. I don't know of many off the top of my head, but I remember thinking that once.
There's always the herd mentality of " I doan need to reed the book, I seen the movie!"
ToTrueMooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
I would like to say I am disappointed in people seeing this bastardization, but since I am disappointed with most people in general it would be redundant.
The numbers are being inflated by the high cost of IMAX tickets. The box office totals would be a lot less if tickets were selling at standard rates.
The crazy and ongoing financial success of the blueskin Avatar films years ago convinced me that the downfall of Hollywood is not entirely Hollywood's fault, nor the woke subculture's. P T Barnum was not wrong.
Think about the hordes of dummies, and I mean, dummies we’ve imported over the half decade. This is the slop these 85 IQers go to see in droves. Plus the stupid middle class facebook, make no waves conservatives turn out for…. Gotta keep up with the Jones’s and Ramirez’s.
I would at least credit Avatar and Jurassic World (to some extent) of not rewriting a classic text or story of old. I believe though, that both Avatar and Odyssey share the reason of their box office successes to gimmick/special screens ticket pricing; Jurassic World on the other hand would be attributed to people's love for dinosaurs and franchise trust.
I’d be ashamed to have written it” was perfectly constructed to exploit authority transfer, consciously or otherwise. It isn’t an argument that readers can inspect. It’s a verdict whose entire force depends upon the identity of the person delivering it. Remove her name and it’s an obnoxious sentence. Attach “Emily Wilson, acclaimed translator of The Odyssey,” and thousands of people can borrow the prestige without doing any thinking themselves.
It’s a miserable little exchange: the translation survives intact, but the pleasure of thinking well of its translator doesn’t. Whenever her name comes up, there it is: credible Homer translation; also, huge asshole. She did that to herself.
She didn’t say, Here is where Nolan’s interpretation departs from mine, and here is what I think the film loses by doing so. She converted her scholarly prestige into a contemptuous one-liner: I’d be ashamed to have written it. Her status became the argument. she walked into the middle of the film and farted on it. She didn’t illuminate the film, seriously challenge it, or even help us understand her objections. She merely deposited her disdain in the middle of an enormous artistic undertaking and made everyone discuss the smell. Now that’s behavior one might be ashamed of.
“Emily Wilson” used to mean: the scholar who undertook the immense labor of producing a serious, credible translation of Homer. Now it also means: the woman who used that prestige to wander into somebody else’s art form and publicly humiliate an artist for making choices she disliked.
She didn’t merely say something foolish. She revealed an astonishing capacity for contempt
I’m a sports fan and have very few teams/ schools I hate. Every once-and-again I’ll see a game where I wish both teams could lose, because I absolutely loathe each participant. Like Texas v. Miami. This story is framed exactly in that last sentence.
This story is so eerily similar to that chick that wrote that very Entertaining, although extremely formulaic Harry Potter, and her “fans”.
Much like that woman and her fans, I wish this woman, coupled with nolan and minions would both “lose”.
There are no compelling parties, whatsoever.
I think she's trying to distance herself from the movie because it put her in a completely negative light. Liberals hate the spotlight of shame, yet fail to realize that it's always shining on them, even when it's pitch black all around. Emily Wilson is feces, plain and simple.
It's a very entertaining movie. You just have to see it for what it is. It is Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey, not Homer's Odyssey. He reworks Homer's tale into something else as thoroughly as Virgil did. Indeed the pervasive melancholy is Virgilian, not Homer's. The monsters and sea-going disasters are classic, worthy updates of older generation adventure flicks. The emotional parts are surprisingly effective, with surprisingly good performances by Damon, Hathaway, and Leguizamo. The dialogue, as Wilson says, is mediocre, so there was a missed opportunity to include literary competence in that aspect of the production, but it did not spoil the whole experience.
I will never watch this woke perversion. I'd rather get a raging bout of Super AIDS.
Let the dick-riding of this woman continue…
I think this might be the reason The Odyssey had a strong second weekend. People just wanted to stick it to Emily Wilson.