The 2025 Monster Manual is the final book for the trilogy of core books new Dungeons & Dragons editions, and Wizards of the Coast has already revealed gender swapping of traditional monsters like Dryads and Hags as well as transgender succubus and incubus monsters in a new promotional video.
I'm surprised they didn't make incubi and succubi playable characters. Or maybe they just do that in their private LARPs. Complete with gender-swapping. Graphically.
Sexless succubi/incubi are arguably closer to proper theology, but the creatures D&D calls demons and devils are so mistaken on so many other points anyway, and orthodoxy was so unlikely to be the motive, that I can't give them much credit for it. :)
I am die hard AD&D. I have all the books and materials. I appreciate some of the later editions supplemental materials that add depth and expand the knowledge base but the updates to game mechanics are just annoying. This is not surprising but for me a bridge too far. I really hope Elon does buy them out. While he’s at it it would be great if he could buy the Robert E. Howard stuff from the fucktard that has it now.
Dryads have always been female. Incubi have always been male, and succubi have always been female. Hags were always old women hidden in swamps.
I am so sick and tired of all WoTCs fucking nonsense.
I wouldn't want to play the game now. I couldn't play the game now because the first time someone held up their arms in an X, I'd go off on them. "You fucking pussy, it's just a game, it's not real life. Why is your mentally ill Mexican orc riding in a wheelchair? Real orcs would have killed him at birth."
I've been playing D&D since the infamous red-box edition. I don't remember all the gender-swapping, or erasure of Drows, or latinizaton of the orcs.
Granted there were female variants of the drow or orcs, or dragons. But Orcs were always evil, the drow were always evil, Incubi were always men and Succubi were always women. Dryads have always been women, ever since the greeks told stories about them.
That doesn't mean that they can't be male, but the author always made allowances for the outlier. They didn't take a female and turn her into a man.
I stopped playing D&D after 3.5 and early 4.0. Much of the creativity was gone and it was boring as hell to play.
I can't imagine trying to play now with all the commie rules.
You’re right. Homebrew rules exist. But homebrew rules were never official, and they were never pushed in such a fashion.
As to my reference to the gender nonsense, here’s the quote from the article.
“Hags now can be aunties or uncles, grannies or grampies,” Kendrick followed up, of which the creature has always been traditionally a wizened old woman or fairy with the appearance of an old woman.
-Then, he gets into a transgender agenda with changes to succubus, a traditionally female creature, and incubus, a traditionally male creature, which now are two sides of the same creature that can swap gender at will.-
European Mythology has always said that Incubi are males and Succubi are females. They’ve never been able to switch sexes.
That’s what I was complaining about. It just seems to me that WoTC is alienating a large percentage of their existing fanbase in order to satisfy maybe 100 people on X and Bluesky. They either forget about the people who bought the game from the beginning, or they don’t care about their existing fanbase.
Changing an existing race to satisfy people with mental illnesses is short-sighted.
It’s a fantasy game. First and foremost, it’s not supposed to reflect the current political landscape. d throwing Gary Gygax under the bus didn’t help any either.
The ’70s were a different time.
I’m just saying if you want to represent something new or something different, then create a new character class or a new monster. Don’t destroy the old one.
Just off hand, if they wanted to push the Transgender issue, they could have brought Baphomet into prominence. In demonography, Baphomet has an everchanging appearance. This demon/devil can appear as either male or female.
They could have brought “Contraries” out of Native American lore. Contraries were men or women who thought they were opposite sex.
Such things would have helped them far better than co-opting the already existing things.
I still have my dice from marathon pencil and paper games back in the 80s, and play on line. But they are ruining the game. Woke ruins everything. All this whining about safe spaces - d&d WAS a safe space for geeks and nerds, most of them boys (remember them?), and now it’s mental patients wearing a d&d skin suit. The game was based on much actual mythology and tropes from the fantasy genre, and faithfully done. This new bullshit is cultural appropriation at its worst.
I'm surprised they didn't make incubi and succubi playable characters. Or maybe they just do that in their private LARPs. Complete with gender-swapping. Graphically.
My D&D journey started with Basic, then AD&D, then 3rd and 3.5. It ends there, Hasbro/WotC get no money from me, or my gamer group.
Sexless succubi/incubi are arguably closer to proper theology, but the creatures D&D calls demons and devils are so mistaken on so many other points anyway, and orthodoxy was so unlikely to be the motive, that I can't give them much credit for it. :)
I liked when faggots didn't ruin everything
I am die hard AD&D. I have all the books and materials. I appreciate some of the later editions supplemental materials that add depth and expand the knowledge base but the updates to game mechanics are just annoying. This is not surprising but for me a bridge too far. I really hope Elon does buy them out. While he’s at it it would be great if he could buy the Robert E. Howard stuff from the fucktard that has it now.
Dungeons and Dragons is now dead.
They've broken what makes it a good game.
Dryads have always been female. Incubi have always been male, and succubi have always been female. Hags were always old women hidden in swamps.
I am so sick and tired of all WoTCs fucking nonsense.
I wouldn't want to play the game now. I couldn't play the game now because the first time someone held up their arms in an X, I'd go off on them. "You fucking pussy, it's just a game, it's not real life. Why is your mentally ill Mexican orc riding in a wheelchair? Real orcs would have killed him at birth."
I've been playing D&D since the infamous red-box edition. I don't remember all the gender-swapping, or erasure of Drows, or latinizaton of the orcs.
Granted there were female variants of the drow or orcs, or dragons. But Orcs were always evil, the drow were always evil, Incubi were always men and Succubi were always women. Dryads have always been women, ever since the greeks told stories about them.
That doesn't mean that they can't be male, but the author always made allowances for the outlier. They didn't take a female and turn her into a man.
I stopped playing D&D after 3.5 and early 4.0. Much of the creativity was gone and it was boring as hell to play.
I can't imagine trying to play now with all the commie rules.
You’re right. Homebrew rules exist. But homebrew rules were never official, and they were never pushed in such a fashion.
As to my reference to the gender nonsense, here’s the quote from the article.
“Hags now can be aunties or uncles, grannies or grampies,” Kendrick followed up, of which the creature has always been traditionally a wizened old woman or fairy with the appearance of an old woman.
-Then, he gets into a transgender agenda with changes to succubus, a traditionally female creature, and incubus, a traditionally male creature, which now are two sides of the same creature that can swap gender at will.-
European Mythology has always said that Incubi are males and Succubi are females. They’ve never been able to switch sexes.
That’s what I was complaining about. It just seems to me that WoTC is alienating a large percentage of their existing fanbase in order to satisfy maybe 100 people on X and Bluesky. They either forget about the people who bought the game from the beginning, or they don’t care about their existing fanbase.
Changing an existing race to satisfy people with mental illnesses is short-sighted.
It’s a fantasy game. First and foremost, it’s not supposed to reflect the current political landscape. d throwing Gary Gygax under the bus didn’t help any either.
The ’70s were a different time.
I’m just saying if you want to represent something new or something different, then create a new character class or a new monster. Don’t destroy the old one.
Just off hand, if they wanted to push the Transgender issue, they could have brought Baphomet into prominence. In demonography, Baphomet has an everchanging appearance. This demon/devil can appear as either male or female.
They could have brought “Contraries” out of Native American lore. Contraries were men or women who thought they were opposite sex.
Such things would have helped them far better than co-opting the already existing things.
“In many cases, when we redesigned a monster, wanted to bring out the monster’s story and personality better..."
Letting it slip again that these people relate more to monsters than heroes.
They really thought they accomplished something here, huh?
I still have my dice from marathon pencil and paper games back in the 80s, and play on line. But they are ruining the game. Woke ruins everything. All this whining about safe spaces - d&d WAS a safe space for geeks and nerds, most of them boys (remember them?), and now it’s mental patients wearing a d&d skin suit. The game was based on much actual mythology and tropes from the fantasy genre, and faithfully done. This new bullshit is cultural appropriation at its worst.
Is Jon or Fandom Pulse on X? Can't find any accounts there.
Take an ACkS II it. Better RPGs ate out there. Let WoTC die on the vine.
Wait. They turned the Succubus into a Trănny? On of the most Sexy Female Mythical Creatures in HISTORY?!?!?!?!?!
Nothing is sacred to these retărds, and they just want us to "accidentally" suck a "Feminine Penïs".............
least perverted and devil worshipping protestant over here.
your curses are Consummately Returned back to whence they came with A St Michael Prayer and A St Benedict Prayer.