I like superhero movies as much as the next guy, but this was one of the most wicked, perverse movies I have ever seen.. I couldn't watch past about 10 minutes or so and had to turn it off.
I think with things like superhero movies the audience is mostly looking for entertainment (and the fanboys for easter eggs), so the issue of whether all these in-jokes eliminate the emotional stakes of the franchise is less relevant.
Also, this particular movie came as the MCU franchise was starting to decay, and poking fun at themselves and being 'meta' is something a lot of franchises will do when they're on the way down.
But you have a counterexample: the DCEU took itself very seriously and never did as well as the MCU. (Deadpool even comments on this in one movie.) DC's heroes are supposed to take heroism more seriously and are from a pre-Sixties age, so the experiment of making superhero movies that seriously examine the idea of heroism was tried. It only seems to work for Batman and in one case Superman.
An interesting exception is the Lego Batman movie, which made enormous fun of the illogical time scale, merchandise shilling, and numerous reboots of the franchise and the way Batman is a power fantasy and still managed to tell an emotional arc about isolation.
There are some stories and heroic qualities ingrained into the public gestalt and people instinctually know when the creators have gone off the deep end. IMO that shared knowledge must be acknowledged before we get to "entertainment". The recent Supergirl movie shows this in spectacular fashion. People didn't have to bone up on the (worst, IMO) Supergirl comic Girl of Tomorrow series it was based on, but they KNEW that what was being shown was not Supergirl.
The nice thing about Deadpool is his anonymity; almost no one outside the specific comic domain knows jack squat about him so there's no expectation of how he should act. All they know is what Ryan Reynolds has done to establish Deadpool and the lore to add to that gestalt that the story barely even matters. The movie is Ryan Remolds as Deadpool doing... whatever rando thing the plot needs, usually in the most gory way possible complete with low brow jokes that keep people laughing at the right spots.
I like superhero movies as much as the next guy, but this was one of the most wicked, perverse movies I have ever seen.. I couldn't watch past about 10 minutes or so and had to turn it off.
I think with things like superhero movies the audience is mostly looking for entertainment (and the fanboys for easter eggs), so the issue of whether all these in-jokes eliminate the emotional stakes of the franchise is less relevant.
Also, this particular movie came as the MCU franchise was starting to decay, and poking fun at themselves and being 'meta' is something a lot of franchises will do when they're on the way down.
But you have a counterexample: the DCEU took itself very seriously and never did as well as the MCU. (Deadpool even comments on this in one movie.) DC's heroes are supposed to take heroism more seriously and are from a pre-Sixties age, so the experiment of making superhero movies that seriously examine the idea of heroism was tried. It only seems to work for Batman and in one case Superman.
An interesting exception is the Lego Batman movie, which made enormous fun of the illogical time scale, merchandise shilling, and numerous reboots of the franchise and the way Batman is a power fantasy and still managed to tell an emotional arc about isolation.
There are some stories and heroic qualities ingrained into the public gestalt and people instinctually know when the creators have gone off the deep end. IMO that shared knowledge must be acknowledged before we get to "entertainment". The recent Supergirl movie shows this in spectacular fashion. People didn't have to bone up on the (worst, IMO) Supergirl comic Girl of Tomorrow series it was based on, but they KNEW that what was being shown was not Supergirl.
The nice thing about Deadpool is his anonymity; almost no one outside the specific comic domain knows jack squat about him so there's no expectation of how he should act. All they know is what Ryan Reynolds has done to establish Deadpool and the lore to add to that gestalt that the story barely even matters. The movie is Ryan Remolds as Deadpool doing... whatever rando thing the plot needs, usually in the most gory way possible complete with low brow jokes that keep people laughing at the right spots.
This movie was fun and silly and I had a great time watching it. I guess I'm just not a Sam Gay.
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