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Mr0303's avatar

Happy that most commenters follow the simple rules - no race swaps are acceptable and don't give money to people who hate you.

Richard Davis's avatar

Ubisoft: Black Samurai!

Sid Meier: Hold my beer.

Mort's avatar

Is it even Sid or Brian anymore?

Spouting Thomas's avatar

I think Sid is said to be vaguely involved but hasn't been lead design on any game since Civ 1. He's ELCA so I have to assume he has likely adopted a lot of Woke over the years and generally agrees with it.

Brian Reynolds created what were IMO the best entries in the series (Civ 2, Colonization, and Alpha Centauri) but I don't think he's been involved since Alpha Centauri.

Laran Mithras's avatar

Civ V was my last.

Civ VI had Global Warming and that was a no-buy for me.

Civ VII was only going to get worse - and it has.

Will there be a Civ VIII? If yes, it will be even worse.

Mile High Bear's avatar

Agree 100%. I still play Civ V, it was the last decent civ game. The Vox Popoli mod makes it perfect. Six got rid of most of what made Civ amazing. And going from a realistic representational form of art, to pudgy nintendo-style cartoon characters just eliminated any possibility of anyone ever being able to take the game seriously as an adult strategy platform. What a complete joke. It's just SAD. I've been disappointed for over a decade waiting for a sequel to Civ V which never arrived.

AJ's avatar

VI is fun if you can get it on deep sale. There are several Steam mods that let you remove the rising seas nonsense. But yeah, I wouldn't touch VII with a ten foot BIPOC rainbow pole.

maniac's avatar

Civ I had global warming

Laran Mithras's avatar

I think I started with Civ II. Not certain, but I recall not entering until the franchise was already on sequels.

JD Free's avatar

2 had it, but you needed major nuclear war to cause it.

Laran Mithras's avatar

That was the one I started then. I recall something problematic about nuclear war and desert tiles popping up.

twb's avatar

Played each of Civ 1-6 way too much, liked some changes along the way, disliked some others, but they've all been enjoyable. But between the extreme changes they've made to general gameplay, and the stupid selection of unsuitable leaders, I'm not going for Civ7.

I strongly suspect they restructured the game primarily so they could wedge in all these silly unrealistic 'national leaders.' Seriously, Tubman as a head of state!? Civ6 has 'Great People' you can recruit, to boost arts, sciences, military, etc., but not national leaders; Tubman would have been fine as one of those.

Rubymosh's avatar

Never played any of the Civilization games and probably never will.

JD Free's avatar

I played Civ 2 as a kid. Even then I remember that communism was the best government in the game, with the particularly ludicrous attribute of magically having ZERO "corruption", in stark contrast to the freer systems that simply could not scale.

It's like they tried to make it the opposite of reality.

NeverForget1776's avatar

I'm getting a hint of that SweetBabyStink on this game

Joseph L. Wiess's avatar

Does that mean Kunta Kinti was Scottish and Luis of France was Mexican?

maniac's avatar

Maybe there's a DLC with hero units coming? If so it needs to be explained better. Related - The lack of ethnicity in the game mechanics holds them back IMO.