Star Trek: Strange New Worlds spent its fourth season’s second episode, “The Griffin Incident,” locking Kirk, Spock, and La’an aboard a derelict starship for an hour of jump scares that never gets explained.
I am happy you do the "work" for us, watching this. I no longer feel the need or the urge to watch it. When I want to watch Star Trek, I'll go back to the older shows.
I'm on vacation anyway, so I will catch up with SNW only after I've returned home. But in the past, with other shows or films, I've never read or watched reviews online, not wanting anything to be spoiled, but with SNW I do, which says a lot: it shows the indifference I feel toward Kurtzman Trek. Sure, there is the occasional good episode, but there is neither a continuity in writing quality nor at least a baseline of "acceptable" quality we enjoyed in the Berman era. Kurtzman Trek needs to end as soon as Paramount can make possible.
I watched this last night and thought it was some of the laziest storytelling I’ve ever encountered. Annoyed I told my husband half way through that I would keep watching a show with extreme bodily mutilation (something I actively avoid) because I wanted to see the resolution. Obviously I was left disappointed!
I haven't seen it yet, but it sounds a bit like what they did to poor Icheb in Picard. I know in that case they were going for the emotional impact on Seven's arc, but I still thought it was off-putting, and it felt cynical, and it could have instead been solved by some real acting imho. I guess that in the Griffin Incident the violence has a different foundation/reason, this being a space horror episode, a genre I do like a lot, but I'm not sure that it feels right for Star Trek. Maybe I'll like those first two episodes, who knows, but it seems like two out of ten episodes have already been non-Trekkish: Jurassic World Trek, and Event Horizon Trek. Only eight episodes left. It seems like the filmmakers are actively *avoiding* to make real Star Trek. It just needs to end. These people need to go.
Yes it feels like they’re more interested in gimmicks than actually exploring the characters. The complete departure from anything that feels like Star Trek is a mistake I my opinion, and just unnecessary.
Yup, pretty much sums up my thoughts. "No explanation at all? How lazy was that?". "She literally impaled him with a knife, front to back, out the other side...and he crawls away to fight another day, while Pike decides not to report it at all?" Wut wut wut?! SNW can be maddeningly patchy, lazy and gimmicky. You can get away with much on a 26 ep season. Not so much on 10, where it really needs to be a better hit count.
The only thing I would say is that, in IMO Carol Marcus was referring to Kirk's attitude and swagger sort of the same way Bruce Willis is a boy scout in the tragically under-rated buddy-comedy movie "The Last Boyscout"
It seems that this line from the episode may be more "I was a boy scout." An Eagle scout or whatever the Federation version is...
That's precisely how I had always read it in Wrath of Khan… as a kind of slang term: boy scout in the sense of morally righteous to the point that it becomes naive, inhibited, out of touch, a do-gooder etc. So now they've apparently made him a former real Boy Scout, but that does not contradict what Carol Marcus said. On the contrary, it establishes a continuity with Jonathan Archer, who had been an Eagle Scout… and from a production standpoint, that's just the writers riffing on the canon and creating some nice irony here, which I do appreciate. But the other continuity error with Naked Time does seem like a problem. One of the many continuity problems that SNW has introduced. (But the boy scout thing is not a problem.)
Even if someone was under some kind of influence reports would be made. In TNG’s “Coming of Age” there were questions about Picard’s fitness due to the mind control he experienced in “The Battle”.
I am happy you do the "work" for us, watching this. I no longer feel the need or the urge to watch it. When I want to watch Star Trek, I'll go back to the older shows.
I'm on vacation anyway, so I will catch up with SNW only after I've returned home. But in the past, with other shows or films, I've never read or watched reviews online, not wanting anything to be spoiled, but with SNW I do, which says a lot: it shows the indifference I feel toward Kurtzman Trek. Sure, there is the occasional good episode, but there is neither a continuity in writing quality nor at least a baseline of "acceptable" quality we enjoyed in the Berman era. Kurtzman Trek needs to end as soon as Paramount can make possible.
I watched this last night and thought it was some of the laziest storytelling I’ve ever encountered. Annoyed I told my husband half way through that I would keep watching a show with extreme bodily mutilation (something I actively avoid) because I wanted to see the resolution. Obviously I was left disappointed!
I haven't seen it yet, but it sounds a bit like what they did to poor Icheb in Picard. I know in that case they were going for the emotional impact on Seven's arc, but I still thought it was off-putting, and it felt cynical, and it could have instead been solved by some real acting imho. I guess that in the Griffin Incident the violence has a different foundation/reason, this being a space horror episode, a genre I do like a lot, but I'm not sure that it feels right for Star Trek. Maybe I'll like those first two episodes, who knows, but it seems like two out of ten episodes have already been non-Trekkish: Jurassic World Trek, and Event Horizon Trek. Only eight episodes left. It seems like the filmmakers are actively *avoiding* to make real Star Trek. It just needs to end. These people need to go.
Yes it feels like they’re more interested in gimmicks than actually exploring the characters. The complete departure from anything that feels like Star Trek is a mistake I my opinion, and just unnecessary.
Yup, pretty much sums up my thoughts. "No explanation at all? How lazy was that?". "She literally impaled him with a knife, front to back, out the other side...and he crawls away to fight another day, while Pike decides not to report it at all?" Wut wut wut?! SNW can be maddeningly patchy, lazy and gimmicky. You can get away with much on a 26 ep season. Not so much on 10, where it really needs to be a better hit count.
The only thing I would say is that, in IMO Carol Marcus was referring to Kirk's attitude and swagger sort of the same way Bruce Willis is a boy scout in the tragically under-rated buddy-comedy movie "The Last Boyscout"
It seems that this line from the episode may be more "I was a boy scout." An Eagle scout or whatever the Federation version is...
That's precisely how I had always read it in Wrath of Khan… as a kind of slang term: boy scout in the sense of morally righteous to the point that it becomes naive, inhibited, out of touch, a do-gooder etc. So now they've apparently made him a former real Boy Scout, but that does not contradict what Carol Marcus said. On the contrary, it establishes a continuity with Jonathan Archer, who had been an Eagle Scout… and from a production standpoint, that's just the writers riffing on the canon and creating some nice irony here, which I do appreciate. But the other continuity error with Naked Time does seem like a problem. One of the many continuity problems that SNW has introduced. (But the boy scout thing is not a problem.)
Even if someone was under some kind of influence reports would be made. In TNG’s “Coming of Age” there were questions about Picard’s fitness due to the mind control he experienced in “The Battle”.