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Jason the Gentleman's avatar

For the record, this is an extremely well put together summary of this situation. Thanks Fandom for putting it together

John F. Trent's avatar

Thank you. We appreciate you reading.

Mark Fox's avatar

He should just sue him at this point. Smash JT crossed a line here and never bothered to message Razorfist about the allegations, and the fact that he's doubling down on it means that he's not going to stop until he loses money.

Jason the Gentleman's avatar

Gamma's never stop doubling down. That would require admitting they were wrong, and they're a few things more difficult for them.

Gridhunter's avatar

Being a Gamma, he won't stop even after losing money. Does not change the fact that consequences must be experienced. Smash JT may not learn, but his negative example will serve as a warning about such behavior.

Ben's avatar

If anything, he's more likely to use the lost money to getting sued as a further excuse, as though that's more proof he's actually correct, when it should be a sign that he lost, is wrong, has been proven wrong, and should really shut his face. Though at the very least, it'd provide Razorfist a nice good stack of cash to serve as a trophy.

Mr0303's avatar

This is what happens when you believe #MeToo garbage, just because you don't like the person. The dramaminers are utterly vapid and useless and people shouldn't use them as a source.

Jason the Gentleman's avatar

Smash just keeps double and tripling down, that kind of behavior reeks of gamma and the only way to stop it is to force consequences, the harsher the better. Gamma's can't be allowed to lie, to themselves most of all, or they only get worse.

Will Martin's avatar

That whole gamma bullshittery comes from that dumb mongrel grifter Vox Day and isn’t actually real.

Goonerfist is Retarded and Simps for that Barren Trollop Melonie Mac.

Jason the Gentleman's avatar

Ok dude. You definitely have the cred's necessary to cast shade at Vox. Acting like a jealous gamma that doesn't like being identified doesn't help your case man.

I know next to nothing about Melonie except that she exists and people hate her because she wants to ban porn. This is of course the correct position. Porn is provably destructive to society writ large, and leads to more human trafficking than almost anything else. Don't be gay and support human trafficking. I believe in you.

Will Martin's avatar

Nigger, I’m more against porn than the supposed tradthot Melonie Mac. Vox is a Grifter as is Goonerfist and Mac and the rest of them.

You’re A Dupe and You Fell For It Again. /pol/ is always right. Monotheism is Jewish Poison.

Jason the Gentleman's avatar

Not sure what I fell for...fantastic books of great quality? An enhanced understanding of how I can categorize people so I can better predict their behavior? Hours of entertainment where I'm made aware of other content I will enjoy? Man, sick burn, amiright?

It's ok to realize you were wrong and change your position. Christ is King, and He is forgiving, you need only repent and follow. Don't let your pride destroy you Will.

Will Martin's avatar

Monotheism is Jewish Poison. Vox is a Mongrel Grifter. Melonie Mac is a Barren Trollop and you're a Christcuck and Race Traitor. I'll never convert, I'll never back down, I'll never give you an inch of ground. You'll have to rock up to me in person Crusader style and Kill Me Over It, ChristNigger.

Jason the Gentleman's avatar

You will bow one day, I just pray it's voluntarily before it's too late. He paid the price for you and offers you forgiveness. You would hardly be the first to cling to false beliefs and false hopes to the bitter end, and it doesn't make you special. Christ offers a life of greater purpose, fulfilling all He made you to accomplish. But the choice is yours and I'll leave you to it, but as long as you keep coming back and reading, I presume Christ is reeling you in :D

God Bless Will, I hope to one day call you brother!

Iwakura Kintsugi's avatar

I agree he should go after Smash for this. I don't like the idea of infighting within the anti-dei side of things but it's become clear Smash is a complete grifter, latching onto any drama he can to push his career forward. Alyssa deserved to be called out but the guy made it his whole personality and railed against her every waking moment up to and including interacting with her while in litigation. It's just not a smart move and he's just gotta take the L at this point before his whole life is affected by this.

Were Puppy's avatar

I'm with Razor. All this stupid goonergate crap was obvious bs when it started. But it nicely coalesced the fraudulent bunch of liars together.

We already know Smash admits to being unable to vet sources. He doesn't care if something is true or not, as long as it allows him to slander Christians. Same for most of that bunch it was sad for me to see, as I watched hypno every day until all this goonergate went down.

Any bigot army don't believe me, I am anti dark mind and you know i was there.

Kino Casino I just treat them as entertainment, do they even claim their stuff is real, or just drama? What is their response, it was not mentioned in this article. They probably don't vet either as they need to feed their content loop with something other than rtu, dsp and Ralph.

Best of luck Razor

Will Martin's avatar

Goonerfist is a Grifter and Melonie Mac is a Barren Trollop.

John Van Stry's avatar

It would be nice for him to take the asshole to court, but it costs ten thousand dollars just to step into a courtroom these days.

Steve's avatar

SMash JT is such a creepy guy. Can’t stand up. He’s such a low effort tuber. Confused why anyone watches him at all. Sounds like they won’t for much longer.

Patrick Abbott's avatar

Sounds like a messed up situation all around. Hopefully the courts will provide clarity.

Captain Jack's avatar

SULLIVAN vs NYT needs to be repealed.

James Taylor's avatar

I don't get Smash JT... he claims to be against woke, but comes out defending DEI and woke... He seems to be a grifter looking for money and latching to whoever pays the most.

I could be wrong, but his politics are out of left (far left) field. Razorfist has had his moments, and he's been the subject of ridicule for years... no telling what is real and what isn't... but he has recently been much less caustic and crass... I think it coincided with his conversion to Greek Orthodox Church? Maybe I misread that one...

Still, I think Smash TV is going after ostensibly conservative youtubers now. I don't know why, nor do I know his motives... other than clout chasing.

He is a royal turd, beyond that... and he can put that in the bank with interest (I know he's lurking.... heh.)

Ben's avatar

Good, let slanderous shitwads get their deserved punishment, and get slapped the fuck down like Amber did.

Will Martin's avatar

Lol, Goonerfist. He simps for that Barren Trollop Melonie Mac. LMAO EVEN!

LumberJackAhz's avatar

I knew RazotFist was a fraud, and the fact he is threatening to use Unconstitutional Laws against someone proves it.

You CAN NOT be on the Right if you don't support REAL Free Speech, and the 1st Amendment has no exceptions. Just like how Trump is being a Leftist and suing News Sites for lying, this is no different.

These people are just as bad as the Left and ALL deserve to be attacked and called out for being the Frauds they are......

John F. Trent's avatar

Free speech is to be used to seek the truth. It does not give one a pass to lie and destroy another person.

LumberJackAhz's avatar

Where in the 1st Amendment does it give that exception?

Answer: It doesn't.

You have the RIGHT to lie per the 1st Amendment, and anyone who weaponizes the Courts against your Rights should face Capital Punishment.

James Taylor's avatar

Freedom of speech means you can say anything you want. It does not protect you from the consequences of libelous or threatening statements. You have freedom to speak. You don't have freedom from all the results of said speech. Seems simple, don't you think?

You can say you want to shoot the President... but you will get a visit from the Secret Service if you do.

John Van Stry's avatar

Freedom of speech means you can say whatever you want. It does NOT however protect you from the consequences of it. Yes, you can tell a lie, you can libel. you can do all of that. HOWEVER, you will be sued (or in more civilized times beat to within a inch of your life) for it.

Your insistence that one should not face the consequences of one's own actions, especially when those actions are bad, are quite simply - leftist. That's what commies and democrats do.

Eric R. Ashley's avatar

Lumberjack is trying for a Libertarian standard of judging behavior on things. And he is anti-Christian as he wants the Church not to influence the Gov't. John Lott's description of Free Speech is closer to what is useful. Good chance, Lumberjack also supports open borders on a Libertarian view.

John Van Stry's avatar

No, he's not a libertarian, he's just an asshole. His comment about the separation of church and state, something which does NOT appear in the constitution makes that clear. He's obviously NEVER read it.

LumberJackAhz's avatar

Hey retărd. The 1st Amendment has Freedom of Religion, therfore Seperation of Church and State.

You people are to easy.........

James Taylor's avatar

Separation of Church and State comes from a letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Church, where the church had asked him about local laws establishing non-Baptist religious services only in a particular locale.

Jefferson said "a wall of separation" between church and state, and the words AFTER that made clear that the government was to stay OUT of religion, not the other way around.

The "Establishment Clause" has been abused by SCOTUS for generations... silencing religious expression in the public square (where it is supposed to be most protected) under the guise of "Separation of Church and State" words that are NOT in the Constitution...

John Van Stry's avatar

Wow. Talk about your stupid.

Do you have to wear a headset that constantly tells you to inhale and exhale, so you don't suffocate?

Eric R. Ashley's avatar

Mr. Van Stry, one of the aspects of Libertarians is the creation of the standard of Freedom. If a rightwinger objects to porn being sold in a children's toy store, or hard drugs outside an elementary school that is against Freedom. And by the absolute singleton standard they uphold, they are right. Any sane man, of course, objects. And the sane and right get called 'statists' for being sane. And told, like this guy did, that we're just as bad as the Left.

LumberJackAhz's avatar

Not a Libertarian retărd, just an ACTUAL person on the Right, and you are all Frauds.

You people have to Straw Man and Red Herring because you know you lost.....

LumberJackAhz's avatar

Hey retărd. You contradicted yourself.

In a Country With NO Free Speech, you can STILL say what you want, but will be punished for it.

In a Country WITH Free Speech you can say what you want, and you can not be legally punished for it.

Using you retărd logic, Free Speech means nothing because with or without it you can say what you want, and still get punished legally.

You people are all Frauds and are Leftists. Worst yet you retărds are also Straw Manning me because you know you lost.

John Van Stry's avatar

You're a pretty brave man when no one knows who you are.

For a proponent of what -you- consider 'free speech' you really are a coward aren't you?

I'm here posting under my own name, I don't hide, unlike you.

So if you want anyone to take you serious, start first with being honest about WHO you are, your name, all of that.

Rather than say being a cowardly little boy, hiding in your mommy's basement, where no one can find you, where no one can actually make you suffer the just desserts of your boorish and childish behavior.

Oh, and 'separation of church and state' isn't in the constitution, if you had read it, and understood the English language, you would know this.

But you haven't

And you can't.

You are nothing more than a fool studying to be a moron.

James Taylor's avatar

In a country without guaranteed freedom of speech you CANNOT say what you want. The government prevents it. See: North Korea, Iran, Turkey, China... the list goes on.

Using your logic, I can call you a child molester, call your employer and say you diddle kids for fun, and there's no recourse for you except to take it and hope you get a sympathetic cell mate who won't anally violate you every 12 seconds.

Steve's avatar

Except this stuff has been proven over and over again to be false. Can tell you didn’t even read this.

LumberJackAhz's avatar

Irrelevant. You have the RIGHT to lie, regardless if you people like it or not.

Steve's avatar

You do not have a right to defame actually. People sue and win all the time.

LumberJackAhz's avatar

Using Unconstitutional Laws. Why are you people so Illiterate? You can't even read the 1st Amendment, and actively support its violations.

Looks like RazorFist isn't the only Frauds around here. You people are Snakes In The Grass, and are just as bad as the Left.

John F. Trent's avatar

The problem with your argument is you are using a different definition of the term free speech.

Chad Pecknold defines it thus: Free speech is conditional on its pursuit of truth and goodness. If your speech is ordered to truth and goodness, open to the fact that maybe you’re wrong about something, but that you’re pursuing what’s true and good, then within legitimate discourse you can have disagreements.

Defamation is disordered speech and is clearly not ordered to truth and goodness and thus cannot be free speech.

Source: https://www.catholic.com/audio/caf/free-speech-genocide-and-liberalisms-failure

John Van Stry's avatar

You're arguing with a meth-head communist. Guy has been huffing paint thinner too long.

LumberJackAhz's avatar

First and foremost, Seperation of Church and State, so don't use a Religious Scolar to discuss anything involving Government in America. This is a foundational belief America was built on.

Next, Google the definition of "Freedom" and the the definition of "Speech". That's it. There is NO OTHER DEFINITION, the rest are all made up to Manipulate people into beliefs.

This is elementary, and you people are exposing yourselves as Leftist.........

James Taylor's avatar

Lying isn't the same as libel/slander/defamation. I am glad you're not a lawyer.