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William Rivera's avatar

Sleepdeprived_bear has it right, I believe that is the point of the article. That being said, Egad, I don't say this to offend you, you're not spending enough time in the Bible. I can tell that because of the way that you speak of the left and the right. You don't understand them as ideologies or their purpose. Also, the scriptures that you put in don't really connect to the points you're making.

Sam Gray's avatar

I don't put any stock in ideologies or their purposes. Instead, I look at what people do and how they act and what they say.

The scriptures are all about telling the truth. That's the point.

V900's avatar

Who cares if the critique is 100% honest and heckin’ wholesome.

We’re for the most part not dealing with people who are intellectually honest anyways.

When it comes to trash like Ghost of Yokei: Burn it.

I don’t care if you throw some gas station gasoline on and light it with the cheapest of BICs or if you use a vintage WW2 flamethrower with gold inserts. Just burn it.

There’ll be plenty of time to critiques each others methods AFTER we win the culture war.

Sam Gray's avatar

Are you leading the charge?

NeverForget1776's avatar

"The irony? Many of these same mechanics were in Ghost of Tsushima, the predecessor to Ghost of Yotei. The difference now is that they’re being filtered through a lens of anti-woke paranoia."

The irony (of this statement)? Most of these same mechanics were implemented by incompetent DEI/Affirmative Action hires and thus are bad, done poorly and that's why the game also feels more buggy than its predecessor.

No matter what anyone including Egghead has to say about the games reception, the fact is it is a sequel that failed poorly compared to its predecessor and with rare exception, sequels to hit games do not typically sell less let alone a lot less copies then its predecessor in the same time frame.

Sam Gray's avatar

"the game feels more buggy"

Cool. I've heard the opposite too. Regardless, bugs are not more or less an indication something is woke, but the anti-Woke lolberts will still attempt to utilize said criticism as culture war leverage.

NeverForget1776's avatar

WRONG. Bugs absolutely can be an indication that the game is woke because the woke promote DEI hiring practices which places emphasis not on skill, experiencer anything resembling merit but yeah you explain how hiring based on DEI philosophy doesn't produce a less competent group of people to work on the game. This should be very interesting.

Sam Gray's avatar

"bugs are not more or less an indication"

Again, you have a selective reading problem. Like you might as well be telling me Fallout 2 (1998) is woke because that game had plenty of bugs like broken quests, crashes, and odd NPC behavior. Fans still adore it to this day.

NeverForget1776's avatar

"So, here’s the crux: many voices within the anti-woke crowd have become more embarrassing than the woke. This is not to dismay legitimate concerns about wokeness in general (which I have done), but rather to criticize methods of critique which have collapsed into the same speculative, emotionally reactive sludge they once mocked."

OMG now Fandom pulse has a "The woke right is real" warrior; great, just great!

The "Woke Right" is a load of crap James Lyndsey came up with b/c he fears that the success of the woke-pushback will cause the pendulum, the societal norm, to swing further back then he would like. Instead of going back to the Obama/Clinton era of Liberalism which he and others who have pushed back against woke would love to return to, he's terrified it will go as far back as the time before the sexual revolution; back to when people had more normal lives and where Christianity was still strong in this nation. The atheists and Marxist had not yet driven God out of the schools and other public spaces. People were not criticized for Christmas decorations in public spaces. A time when it was possible for a family of four to live off one income, even that of a janitor.

Liberals and atheists like Lyndsey deathly fear this return to a 50's era like society because of how much time and work it took for the anti-Christian/anti-right crowd to turn everything around and set our society on a path to where we are today. If we go back to that pint in time they know it will take generations at the least to get back to a Clinton era like society if at all. Today we now how bad the outcome is for most of what Liberals push for and so if we go back, it would be near impossible to sucker the public again into lies like government provided health care. Thu he has created anew boogeyman called the woke right that is supposed to be the rights equivalent of woke. They hope they can cause enough fear from this "Woke Right" promotion that they can slow down the pendulums swing and stop it from going to far back.

John F. Trent's avatar

I think you're reading into his critique. James Lindsay would likely describe this publication as "woke right." And it's not hard to find GamerGate 2.0 activists like Smash JT describing me and JDA as thus.

NeverForget1776's avatar

Two things can be true (as well as false) at the same time. The authors piece was very emotional; more so then one offering up advice on the correct way to review a game.

I am at a loss for why there is so much infighting about this like what you say with Smash JT. I started watching him about a year ago, maybe 2 and I don't understand what's going on with all that however I must admit I've fallen out of gaming the last few years due to medical reasons. It's amazing how some medications can actually make you desire gaming less than you normally would. Have you on this site done a piece on what the deal is between you guys and Smash JT?

John F. Trent's avatar

Smash JT took issue with the fact that I am a Christian and want pornography banned. He wrote an entire article blasting me and other Christians as people he wanted purged from gaming. You can find that here (https://www.smashjt.com/post/a-new-challenger-appears-religion-goonergate-explained).

Following that, he revealed to me in DM, which is now public that he is completely fine with developers pushing transgender propaganda in their games. He's defended this multiple times by claiming he'll object it to it, but they have a right to push it on unsuspecting and suspecting gamers. They don't. Evil has no rights.

Next, he endorsed Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's underage sodomy. He and others like JayViper lied about the game and then lied about us for pointing out this evil.

After months of repeatedly libeling and slandering me and objecting to my view on censorship, he decided to take the same view while discussing Roblox albeit he believes himself to be the one to be the moral arbiter all while pretending he doesn't.

Based on all this, I've come to the conclusion he's a very broken individual, who needs lots of prayers. Nevertheless, given his track record and his current lack of repentance, I have no reason to trust much of what he says given he's also been caught straight up lying about so-called scoops in order to enrich himself.

NeverForget1776's avatar

That's a shame. His stance on Christians does explain some things that were not so clear before. Good to know this now b/c he's no longer in my feed. I will not sport in any way, someone who can't let people with differing beliefs and takes just be.

Atheists are very afraid of Christianity as it is the only faith with any real power to challenge you know who. They don't attack Buddhism or Islam or Hindu's b/c those faiths have no real power. If American society is allowed to get just a taste of what life was really like before the Liberals and other anti-Christian groups were able to turn society upside down, what it was like in the 50's, they know that all the lies that have been told about that period to justify modern day takes and actions will fall away and it will take generations at the least to undo that. If for example women are able to experience being a stay at home wife/mother and living on one income in a neighborhood without fear of being assaulted or robbed that they will chose that life versus going back to what we have now.

Whether you believe in a creator or evolution both still end in 2 human sexes that are not the same, do not think the same and do not act or want the same things. We find happiness when we peruse and engage in what we were made to do. These guys know that they must at all costs ensure we never get a taste of what that lifestyle was like for most would choose it and that would be the end of the anti-Christian atheist utopia they are trying o build.

Sam Gray's avatar

No, this was not advice on the "correct" way to review a game. I was simply imploring people to tell the truth. By all means, tell lies and reap the consequences.

sleepdeprived_bear's avatar

I am perplexed at some readers seeing hidden meaning in your words. I find the approach you take in your essays which is in my opinion "I am saying exactly what I mean" refreshing.

You are literally saying, anyone fabricating evidence about Ghost of Yotei 'bombing' or 'failing' is chasing a popular trend for attention, clicks, and potential monetization.

It's like, I think it was realhypnotic, that claimed that Mouthwashing was banned off Itch.io, he got a lot of engagement, and it turned out that the developers themselves removed the game.

Sam Gray's avatar

Please tell me how insisting people utilize actual methods of critique and tell the truth is the same as saying "the woke right is real."

NeverForget1776's avatar

You DO realize that your article featured far more then just the small part I quoted yes? You do not simply say that people should ".. utilize actual methods of critique and tell the truth.." and leave it at that, you go onto a very emotional sounding breakdown that hints that this is far more then just conveying best critics with regards to game review. You act like as if you were involved in the game and now your upset b/c it's failed so you attack people with accusations you can't prove. I have no doubt that some criticizing the game have not played it; we have paid reviewers who do the same, either partially play or don't play it at all but write a positive review of the game. Its not a one sided problem. However you don't know that everyone who had these criticisms about the game did not play it.

You make it very clear that you appear to have some concern, maybe even fear, over the anti-woke movement so it's not much a leap to believe you are a believer in the woke right crap but if you aren't then just say as much and i will concede I was wrong in assuming you were. The more emotional your responses the more suspect your claims become.

Sam Gray's avatar

No. Nothing "hints" at shit. I literally say this:

"...this essay isn’t a defense of Ghost of Yotei. It’s a defense of discernment. If you want to critique the game, do it. If you want to boycott it, fine. But don’t fabricate motives and don’t pretend your speculation is revelation."

There are zero hints there. I straight up tell you what is going on. Again, you have a selective reading problem. You're not here for discourse, you're here to pick fights for no reason. Kick rocks.

NeverForget1776's avatar

"These threads unravel into fevered talk of corporate collusion and ideological grooming which would be compelling if even a shred of proof ever backed any of it up"

Right because there's NEVER EVER been any examples of something like this, of a studio or publisher paying influencers and similar to help promote a game without being upfront clear that they've been hired to promote the game. Ey?

This isn't proof that this is what is happening, that these streamers and content providers aren't organically doing what they are b/c its what they believe but your dismissal of it is an even worse take.

There is such a thing as "creative license" but one still must provide a functional and entertaining story and not use "creative license" as an excuse to not do so. People are upset with the female protagonist b/c they KNOW why a female was chosen and it has nothing to do with creative license.

Sam Gray's avatar

You have a selective reading problem. I called this out here:

"Of course, spiraling into accusations isn’t anything new. These are echoes reminiscent of a post-GamerGate reflex where suspicions about cozy relationships between journalists and developers were, at times, backed by receipts. But here? One can certainly raise eyebrows and can connect dots with red string and a corkboard. But unless you bring proof, it’s just noise."

NIGELTEAPOT's avatar

glad to see your mentally ill grift is beginning to go "mask off," at least you stopped pretending to be small-c "christian" too.

First game opens with a scene of a man proudly defending the heritage of his Family and is then summarily murdered and his body is desecrated.

Then a large quest is that his widow is actually a lesbian ex-prostitute who only wanted him for his money, of which this is "stunning and brave."

The game spends a large portion of its runtime mocking this man.

The rest of the runtime is of the main character being turned into a mass murdering racial supremacist because he hangs onto every word of a chinese thief who acts as both his "agent" and hype-man.

The anti-"moral" of the base game is that Goodness, Virtue, and Tradition is simultaneously "weak" and "evil" and that actual evil is "brave" and "necessary" for basic survival.

A large portion of side quests have to do with sodomy or drilling home the above, with another how "religion" is "weak" and "evil" because it demands better of you and that "freedom" only comes through mass murder.

The only thought that I had when that blaspheming (in every sense of the word) spree was that the religion you (yes, you, mr nihilist) REALLY belong to (you never have been Christian, and I can't imagine you will ever be allowed to after all this) is so mindlessly evil that not even pagan Virtues are allowed anymore.

Oh boy.

And then the dlc somehow gets worse. The entire thing involves rejecting your Father and then trying to murder his soul, all so you can join the mass murdering "freedom fighters" that murdered him two decades prior; all to the point that the "freedom fighter" that murdered your Father then becomes your "new dad" because you are so similar to him now.

The entire game is the most perfect villian origin story but played deadly straight. Not only does it see pure evil as "aspirational," it's repeated dehumanization of ANYONE with ANY Virtue whatsoever is a direct threat that you're next to be murdered if you don't fall in line.

And you defend this. Not out of some smug principles you want to beat Us over the head with to celebrate your delusion apotheoses, but because you BELIEVE.

I'd imagine the sequel is even worse, and it's "nice" that you have found a place to belong in a fictional world, but I'm going to pull my sub since this site keeps platforming you all throughout your descent into madness. This isn't the first article of this type you've done recently.

go to hell with synthetic man (the e-boy nihilist you moderate for whose defining personality trait is that he does little but masturbate to "chicks with dicks" porn in between playing videogames).

your curses are Consummately Returned!

By My Final Authority you are Hereby Marked!

your Children (God Help them) will be Baptized in your blood.

sleepdeprived_bear's avatar

Fellow Catholic here, I am part of the Roman Catholic rite.

I think the point of the article is not to say Ghost of Yotei is woke, or even Ghost of Tsushima is woke. Given the evidence you have cited I am inclined to think there is something off with the first game, but I'm not interested enough to play it.

Whattheegad/sigmastarscream's essay is a reminder or warning to tell the truth and not fabricate evidence to why Ghost of Yotei is woke. There are a lot of clout chasers on Twitter/X that attempt to say outlandish things with the hope Elon Musk boosts their tweets. Grummz and a few other accounts have done such things.