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Dave's avatar

“LLM made off of his books, generate final novel”

Jeffolas's avatar

How much water and electricity do you want to burn up having 200 characters, of which people only actually remember 10, eat, dress up, undress, screw, and screw over one another just to end after 1500 pages with no significant plot advancement?

J.E. Vance's avatar

The books are objective garbage with constant assault scenes. Are there well written pieces? Sure. Most writers can pull that off. You dont write THAT many assaults and be a normal human being though. At some point it isnt flavor anymore. It's personal fantasy.

Slowfatninjah's avatar

Mis-read your comment. Deleted my first response! And, yes. What you said. Half of Martin's stuff is just filler.

I am re-reading The Wheel of Time from start to finish and while I have a new appreciation for how deeply things were plotted out and telegraphed from book one that show up in book five, there's also a lot of BS filler going on.

No wonder it had to go out so many books. Thankfully, I'm on the last one Jordan wrote so things should pick up now.

Slowfatninjah's avatar

I have a feeling that's what happened to the last 3 seasons of the Game of Thrones show. LLMs are better now and have, thanks to illegal activities of breaking into libraries and other repos of digital books, probably trained on both GRRM and Rothfuss.

Fortress of Ineptitude's avatar

George R.R. Martin is a cautionary tale to all creators that “fame” can easily turn to “infamy” when you demonstrate such prolonged disdain toward your creations, your legal obligations, and to your loyal fans. It’s obviously his choice to dawdle away his remaining time on such selfish frippery, but that comes at the heavy price of decimating his creative legacy.

Hope it was worth it, Skipper.

Jessamine Halverson's avatar

He's now worth 120 million dollars, what incentive does he have to work? Especially since he can make millions from works just laying around in drawers.

Jeffolas's avatar

I'd say: self-respect? Shame? But have you seen the man?

I'd also say: gratitude? A sense of appreciation for the fans who've made him millions? But have you heard the man speak?

He's nothing but a fat tool.

Mungho's avatar

He wears a stupid hat too.

Jeffolas's avatar

The truest and sickest burn in this thread.

Fortress of Ineptitude's avatar

Hence my “Skipper” nickname for him.

Slowfatninjah's avatar

The rich don't need integrity any more.

J.E. Vance's avatar

Generally, creatives work because they feel a need to create. Lol.

Fortress of Ineptitude's avatar

At what point does his publisher just sue him for breach of contract? It’s a bad look, for sure, but at this point, does anyone care?

DemsAreTrash's avatar

Just like Hillary Clinton.

Jeffolas's avatar

To be fair, I don't think Gurrm has killed anyone yet, or drunk the blood of tortured children.

But give him time, I'm sure he's working on it.

Were Puppy's avatar

If grrm doesnt care, why should anybody else? Its over.

CleatusDefeatus's avatar

What a pompous, bureaucratic, asswhhhipe. Hopefully he goes early due to his decadence. What do you want to bet he has the Gout.

No matter when you read this comment, I bet he’s in the middle of some eight course, Henry VII meal?

Harry Nuckels's avatar

I'd be willing to bet that when Martin sold the rights to HBO fifteen years ago, he knew he'd never finish the last two books; he probably figured that between all the TV writers the story would get SOME form of resolution-- whether it was successful is still an ongoing debate...

Slowfatninjah's avatar

Like an article a while ago said: Authors like GRRM and Patrick Rothfuss start and epic and amazing series that is expected to be long term or have the potential for a long term franchise, get their millions, then they get bored or run out of ideas and go and do other stuff. It has ruined the industry for others who want to kick off a series with a mainstream publisher.

They claim it is to refresh their creative juices but it is really a dodge for them ditching their fans, indulging in all the fame, enjoying all the brown nosing, and swimming in their money.

DemsAreTrash's avatar

George U. R. Fartin your legacy away.

Cyborgjustice's avatar

This is what happens when fame gets into your head.

A. J. Black's avatar

I don’t believe there is no plan to complete this series if he dies first. There is just too much money to be made.